ChazUK
Apr 17, 03:07 PM
The biggest reason why Android will not overtake the iPhone in app sales is that the iPhone is consistent in its OS revisions.
Are we not forgetting that the market for apps is going to start to fragment come OS4? With 1st gen iPhone and iPod touch owners stuck without an update and iPad owners stuck on 3.2 until "Fall", development for iPhone may start to become a pain soon if you want to maximise customer base. I'm not sure how backwards compatible an app developed for the iPhone and OS4 would be when running on the iPad if it uses API's not available on 3.2.
Then we have the potential of 3 different OS4 capable phones which may vary in features come the next gen iPhone. 3G can't multitask and will undoubtedly mis some OS4 features, the 3GS will do everything Apple has shown so far and I expect the next iPhone to have some more features over the last two.
Android's open-ness which is a strength is also its biggest weakness. As a developer its a small nightmare to test and develop for it because of so many unknowns.
Are we talking software or hardware wise here?
It must be a pain in the arse developing for Android and working out things like, does it have a trackball or D-pad, what processor & how much RAM the device has, what size screen does it have, which OS revision is it using....
So far as unified hardware goes, the iPhone has been king so far, I agree. :)
Have you got any Android projects currently in development?
Are we not forgetting that the market for apps is going to start to fragment come OS4? With 1st gen iPhone and iPod touch owners stuck without an update and iPad owners stuck on 3.2 until "Fall", development for iPhone may start to become a pain soon if you want to maximise customer base. I'm not sure how backwards compatible an app developed for the iPhone and OS4 would be when running on the iPad if it uses API's not available on 3.2.
Then we have the potential of 3 different OS4 capable phones which may vary in features come the next gen iPhone. 3G can't multitask and will undoubtedly mis some OS4 features, the 3GS will do everything Apple has shown so far and I expect the next iPhone to have some more features over the last two.
Android's open-ness which is a strength is also its biggest weakness. As a developer its a small nightmare to test and develop for it because of so many unknowns.
Are we talking software or hardware wise here?
It must be a pain in the arse developing for Android and working out things like, does it have a trackball or D-pad, what processor & how much RAM the device has, what size screen does it have, which OS revision is it using....
So far as unified hardware goes, the iPhone has been king so far, I agree. :)
Have you got any Android projects currently in development?
scirica
Mar 11, 09:50 AM
This is a great thread. I'll be monitoring it to see how the Southlake line is shaping up. I plan on heading over there at lunch time for a peak and if it's really getting long I may camp out. Wish we had a way to know the current inventory (and by model/color).
mrezzy
Jun 15, 11:18 PM
so how much is the iphone now after price drop?
please post pic, and condition. will pay ASAP.
please post pic, and condition. will pay ASAP.
kingdonk
Feb 28, 07:07 PM
The screenshots follow in order so if you unsure what a smaller shot is of, go back until you see a full screen shot and you will understand what it belongs too.
cheesemonster24
Mar 25, 02:45 PM
A co-worker and I called around and found three 16gb at a store. Went to get one apiece and luckily got the last two. They were reluctant to sell them to us for some reason though. :D
jettredmont
Nov 21, 06:20 PM
If you're in a warm room, for instance, you'll have much lower performance, since it requires the differential to work. Of course, maybe the information available isn't wholly accurate, but that's my understanding based on the description.
And therein lies the failure of this idea as a simplifying concept:
When do you need the fan on? When the processor heats up.
Do you want the fan blowing harder or softer when the room is warmer? Harder.
In other words, if I'm sitting out in the cool evening air, I hardly need the fan going at all as the coolness of the air is doing just fine pulling the heat from the CPU. If I'm sitting in 100-degree weather then that fan better be buzzing like a bee to get enough air past the heat sink to effect a suitable heat transfer.
This works in just the opposite: In the cold air, there's a huge differential, so the fan is going full bore, annoying me and all my peace-and-quiet-loving neighbors. In the warm air, it slows to a crawl as the amount of electricity generated approaches the lower limit of sustaining power for the fan. Then it stops. Then my laptop heats up rapidly and the processor dies.
So, you need two additional controls: a bleed for cases when this extra cooling is not necessary, and a backup fan for when it isn't sufficient.
So, we haven't been able to simplify the problem at all, and instead are gaining the (very slight) power savings from not having to run this fan off our battery power (directly) in a mid-temp room. Seems like the R&D and per-unit costs put into this circuitry could be more wisely spent eking a few more milliwatts from the existing circuitry ...
And therein lies the failure of this idea as a simplifying concept:
When do you need the fan on? When the processor heats up.
Do you want the fan blowing harder or softer when the room is warmer? Harder.
In other words, if I'm sitting out in the cool evening air, I hardly need the fan going at all as the coolness of the air is doing just fine pulling the heat from the CPU. If I'm sitting in 100-degree weather then that fan better be buzzing like a bee to get enough air past the heat sink to effect a suitable heat transfer.
This works in just the opposite: In the cold air, there's a huge differential, so the fan is going full bore, annoying me and all my peace-and-quiet-loving neighbors. In the warm air, it slows to a crawl as the amount of electricity generated approaches the lower limit of sustaining power for the fan. Then it stops. Then my laptop heats up rapidly and the processor dies.
So, you need two additional controls: a bleed for cases when this extra cooling is not necessary, and a backup fan for when it isn't sufficient.
So, we haven't been able to simplify the problem at all, and instead are gaining the (very slight) power savings from not having to run this fan off our battery power (directly) in a mid-temp room. Seems like the R&D and per-unit costs put into this circuitry could be more wisely spent eking a few more milliwatts from the existing circuitry ...
benthewraith
Nov 11, 12:36 PM
I find it sad that some people know the freakin actor's names of the Apple ads.......
To be fair, Justin Long's name was known before the Apple ads. As well as John Hodgman's. Justin for Dodgeball, and John for his stints on the Daily Show.
To be fair, Justin Long's name was known before the Apple ads. As well as John Hodgman's. Justin for Dodgeball, and John for his stints on the Daily Show.
Watabou
Apr 30, 05:02 PM
No, you made his point because you went all defensive and fearful over Android.
It's not any "harder" to use or figure than iOS. Heck, the iPhone has a 274 page user manual... So much for "intuitive".
Huh?! I didn't think I got defensive over Android. I don't know how just stating Android was difficult to use translates to "I am defensive and fearful over Android".
I just stated Android was difficult to use. That's similar to saying I like eating icecream out of the box rather than taking my time putting it in a bowl or a cone and then eating it. See what I'm saying? Now, some people may like the latter way but I much prefer iPhone's navigation, iPhone browser, perfect integration with iTunes, iCal, Mail and others, and the App Store to Android. That said, I do like a lot of the Android features, especially the notification bar that just amazed me.
I use iPhone because I found it much intuitive to use. If you take my iPhone away and force me to use Android, will I enjoy it? No of course not but I won't be fearful of using it...geez.
P.S. Android has over 300 pages of user manual. But that's beside the point right? ;)
It's not any "harder" to use or figure than iOS. Heck, the iPhone has a 274 page user manual... So much for "intuitive".
Huh?! I didn't think I got defensive over Android. I don't know how just stating Android was difficult to use translates to "I am defensive and fearful over Android".
I just stated Android was difficult to use. That's similar to saying I like eating icecream out of the box rather than taking my time putting it in a bowl or a cone and then eating it. See what I'm saying? Now, some people may like the latter way but I much prefer iPhone's navigation, iPhone browser, perfect integration with iTunes, iCal, Mail and others, and the App Store to Android. That said, I do like a lot of the Android features, especially the notification bar that just amazed me.
I use iPhone because I found it much intuitive to use. If you take my iPhone away and force me to use Android, will I enjoy it? No of course not but I won't be fearful of using it...geez.
P.S. Android has over 300 pages of user manual. But that's beside the point right? ;)
Shaun, UK
Oct 6, 11:30 AM
A 4" iPhone would probably replace the 3.5" model so all the current apps would run on it no problem. It might require some tweaking for some apps but the upside is you get to update your app and sell it again.
If they build an iPhone with the same size screen as the iPod Nano then they could invite developers to develop mini-apps for that size screen to be used on the iPod Nano and iPhone Nano, creating a new AppStore category. Would be a huge market and very attractive to developers of news/info related apps.
If they build an iPhone with the same size screen as the iPod Nano then they could invite developers to develop mini-apps for that size screen to be used on the iPod Nano and iPhone Nano, creating a new AppStore category. Would be a huge market and very attractive to developers of news/info related apps.
gagebart
Mar 13, 10:41 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
I live in Arizona and we don't follow daylight savings time, but my phone jumped an hour ahead. I'm on AT&T btw
I live in Arizona and we don't follow daylight savings time, but my phone jumped an hour ahead. I'm on AT&T btw
Small White Car
Apr 5, 09:38 AM
You're supposed to use smilies when you're being sarcastic on the Internet.
This is the Worldwide Web and not all readers here are native English speakers. If you don't clue others to your sarcasm, your words will often be taken at face value. You have much to learn about effective online communication.
Thank you.
I'm sorry you didn't understand me. I really am and didn't mean to insult you.
But I didn't put a smiley because it wasn't really all that sarcastic. It was a pretty straighforward comment about how Macrumors posters are temperamental and sometimes hypocritical.
This is the Worldwide Web and not all readers here are native English speakers. If you don't clue others to your sarcasm, your words will often be taken at face value. You have much to learn about effective online communication.
Thank you.
I'm sorry you didn't understand me. I really am and didn't mean to insult you.
But I didn't put a smiley because it wasn't really all that sarcastic. It was a pretty straighforward comment about how Macrumors posters are temperamental and sometimes hypocritical.
outerspaceapple
Aug 19, 11:53 AM
me 2, me 2! :D
hehe. nice pic too. reminds me of all those spam scams i entered trying 2 get one... i've seen better days.
hehe. nice pic too. reminds me of all those spam scams i entered trying 2 get one... i've seen better days.
room237
Jan 7, 09:13 AM
Your iphone is sooo modded im not surprise... Lol im jailbreak too and everything seems to work except for the sound... The push is fast too it comes 1sec before my mobile me email notification
I am not jailbroken and I have had problems with push too. At first absolutely nothing. This morning the alerts started coming through, but no badges. Then after a couple of hours, badges would work, but sound has never worked.
I wish the badges would disappear if I view the notifications online on a computer. I left my house with the badges reading "4" but they were all notifications I read about an hour earlier.
Also, messages don't come through as badges, only silent alerts.
If you're going to put an update like this thru, make sure it works! Did they even test this thing once?!?!
I am not jailbroken and I have had problems with push too. At first absolutely nothing. This morning the alerts started coming through, but no badges. Then after a couple of hours, badges would work, but sound has never worked.
I wish the badges would disappear if I view the notifications online on a computer. I left my house with the badges reading "4" but they were all notifications I read about an hour earlier.
Also, messages don't come through as badges, only silent alerts.
If you're going to put an update like this thru, make sure it works! Did they even test this thing once?!?!
MacProGuy
Sep 19, 10:19 PM
You can't boot XP from CD on a Mac. You can't you can't you can't. The Mac boots using EFI, which XP doesn't support.
You need to use Boot Camp to install it, as legacy BIOS emulation has to be loaded specifically for XP.
PLEASE... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... don't talk if you don't know what you are saying. I'm not perfect... but I can absolutely, ABSOLUTELY guarantee ... GUARANTEE YOU... that you CAN indeed boot XP from the new Macs WITHOUT BOOTCAMP WHATSOEVER.
That is how I have my iMac (24") setup...
The FIRST thing I did when I took her out of the box was insert the WINXP SP2 CD... (nothing slipstreamed)... and hold down the "c" key...
Voila! Booting into XP Setup... COMPLETELY FORMATTED THE ENTIRE 500GB DRIVE with XP... and she runs great.
I then attached an EXTERNAL FW800 RAID 0 Setup (1TB now)... and boot OS X off that external slice...
So... JUST SO YOU KNOW! Please try not to confuse the rest of the class Billy, uhmKay? ;)
You need to use Boot Camp to install it, as legacy BIOS emulation has to be loaded specifically for XP.
PLEASE... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... don't talk if you don't know what you are saying. I'm not perfect... but I can absolutely, ABSOLUTELY guarantee ... GUARANTEE YOU... that you CAN indeed boot XP from the new Macs WITHOUT BOOTCAMP WHATSOEVER.
That is how I have my iMac (24") setup...
The FIRST thing I did when I took her out of the box was insert the WINXP SP2 CD... (nothing slipstreamed)... and hold down the "c" key...
Voila! Booting into XP Setup... COMPLETELY FORMATTED THE ENTIRE 500GB DRIVE with XP... and she runs great.
I then attached an EXTERNAL FW800 RAID 0 Setup (1TB now)... and boot OS X off that external slice...
So... JUST SO YOU KNOW! Please try not to confuse the rest of the class Billy, uhmKay? ;)
virus1
Aug 19, 09:49 PM
I just had a stroke of genius. What if, one could harness Gmail's huge amount of server space and somehow have it host your files as if a web server? I don't personally know if it could be done.
DeSnousa
Apr 21, 05:33 AM
ok in the last 2 days, my ps3 has folded 9 WU's in the same time my G5 has managed 68% on it's first WU :O the G5 is being turned off for now lol will resume main machine folding when i get my mac pro
Are you sure it's not a big unit that is worth a lot of points?
Are you sure it's not a big unit that is worth a lot of points?
MikhailT
Mar 28, 09:05 AM
When has Apple ever made anything more than "just a small improvement"?
To many users, Snow Leopard is just a small improvement over Leopard.
To many users, Snow Leopard is just a small improvement over Leopard.
mac-er
Feb 19, 06:53 AM
Its all about respect for the office. The others are wearing jackets and/or button-up shirts. Just because you don't give a ____ does not mean you have to be disrespectful and show your lack of class.
I don't disagree with you at all. He did the same thing at an EU summit on e-commerce.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/09/steve-jobs-joins-ceos-mick-jagger-for-e-commerce-roundtable.ars
I don't disagree with you at all. He did the same thing at an EU summit on e-commerce.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2008/09/steve-jobs-joins-ceos-mick-jagger-for-e-commerce-roundtable.ars
moneyman118
Apr 13, 11:35 PM
Just in case the stealth mission doesn't work call up some Somali pirates for back up.
I'll be in the elevator with said midget, make that a snappier elevator, to allow for quick transport to the hull of the ship. Once in the storage area we can grab the 2011 iMacs and perhaps a few white Jesus phones ;)
Edit:The midget was in the old thread, he needs to appear without warning, much like the silent update for the magic trackpad!
I'll be in the elevator with said midget, make that a snappier elevator, to allow for quick transport to the hull of the ship. Once in the storage area we can grab the 2011 iMacs and perhaps a few white Jesus phones ;)
Edit:The midget was in the old thread, he needs to appear without warning, much like the silent update for the magic trackpad!
Winni
Apr 15, 03:17 AM
As a datacenter manager ? Quite the contrary, those are 3 big data center experiences right there.
As a product manager ? I'd agree with you.
Let's see...
Most successful desktop operating system: Microsoft Windows.
Most successful server operating system: Microsoft Windows Server.
Most successful office suite: Microsoft Office.
Three good reasons (and there would be more like Exchange Server, Sharepoint Portal, SQL Server, Visual Studio) to also have confidence in the man if he were hired as a product manager.
Like it or not, Microsoft still is the most IMPORTANT software company around, and they don't hire incompetent idiots either.
As a product manager ? I'd agree with you.
Let's see...
Most successful desktop operating system: Microsoft Windows.
Most successful server operating system: Microsoft Windows Server.
Most successful office suite: Microsoft Office.
Three good reasons (and there would be more like Exchange Server, Sharepoint Portal, SQL Server, Visual Studio) to also have confidence in the man if he were hired as a product manager.
Like it or not, Microsoft still is the most IMPORTANT software company around, and they don't hire incompetent idiots either.
JAT
Apr 5, 10:09 AM
Thank you so much for that interesting and insightful comment. You really added to the discussion.
I can help. You weren't sure if posting copyrighted information here is "allowed". It is illegal in most countries, certainly in the USA, where both MR and CR are located. So, no....not allowed, either.
And to explain cvaldes comment...If you are going to be posting information on the net, you maybe should look up and know a few laws about such things.
I can help. You weren't sure if posting copyrighted information here is "allowed". It is illegal in most countries, certainly in the USA, where both MR and CR are located. So, no....not allowed, either.
And to explain cvaldes comment...If you are going to be posting information on the net, you maybe should look up and know a few laws about such things.
theheadguy
Mar 23, 08:23 PM
I bet Apple keeps secrets better than the Government....
They have less secrets to keep.
The Government, I mean serious government, with big purchasing power gets great deals on Mac's better than you think and competitive to the high end systems you might get from Dell etc
That's not true.
They have less secrets to keep.
The Government, I mean serious government, with big purchasing power gets great deals on Mac's better than you think and competitive to the high end systems you might get from Dell etc
That's not true.
puckhead193
Mar 26, 05:28 PM
So he really doesn't wear anything besides jeans and black turtleneck...huh :)
I wonder how many turtlenecks he has?
I wonder how many turtlenecks he has?
WildCowboy
Oct 16, 04:18 PM
Apple smart phone with keyboard? I could definitely be talked into that.
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